I handed in my finished term paper this morning, which is also the last day which we can post blog entries before the grading begins. So, having arrived at the end of the line in regards to this class on oral traditions, what do I know now that I didn't know before taking the class?
For one, that Francis Yates makes for dense reading, but contains very evocative pictures in the book in addition to evocative theories. But I've also come to see that the oral tradition, while in the past, still influences the present(as the past seems apt to do; the reason for this is memory). It seems that most everything to some extant or another is interconnected with everything else, which is what the ancient myths understood and articulated very plainly, and which the literate culture would do well to remember.
So what were the chances of my figuring this out? One in three, of course.
Wednesday, April 29, 2009
Wednesday, April 22, 2009
Today was the first day of the individual presentations of our term papers. Those that went were Gerad of the Open Plain, Sutter the Sacker of Cities, Kelsey of the Late Rent, Keen Kenning Ben, Brandon, Zazen Zach, Quick-wit Nick, and Crazy Coffee Carly. All of them offered piquant topics, though I was interested to see that there were seemed to be a trope of music running through this batch. This probably is a comment in and of itself on the importance of music within the oral tradition and beyond.
It was also mentioned that for the final exam, we will need to be familar with what Yates has to say about Robert Fludd(who hypothesied that Shakespeare's Globe Theatre was actually constructed as a memory theatre), and Chapter 7 in Ong, which relates heavily to literary criticism.
It was also mentioned that for the final exam, we will need to be familar with what Yates has to say about Robert Fludd(who hypothesied that Shakespeare's Globe Theatre was actually constructed as a memory theatre), and Chapter 7 in Ong, which relates heavily to literary criticism.
Wednesday, April 15, 2009
Groups 2 and 1 gave their presentations today. Group 2, on the Kane chapter 'Boundaries' was very impressive; detailed and informative and humorous, which always helps. The principal idea to be gleaned from it however, is that in mythology boundaries are crossed but can only be done temporarily, and one returns to the 'real' world having benifitted enormously from what they have learned in the other world. You see this motif frequently in children's literature(hence the references to a rabbit-hole and a great glass elevator, and Oz).
Group 1, 'Maps", my group, set out to accomplish the mapping of landscape locations without tangible types of maps which one would find in a literate context. Hence, a story out of stories was formed. How successful or entertaining it was in this endeavor I will leave to other commentators to surmise.
Group 1, 'Maps", my group, set out to accomplish the mapping of landscape locations without tangible types of maps which one would find in a literate context. Hence, a story out of stories was formed. How successful or entertaining it was in this endeavor I will leave to other commentators to surmise.
Monday, April 6, 2009
Today was the day that always comes before a test, the day on which the test questions are prepared. I will rattle them off down below, although not in a terribly oranized order.
Nietzche says "we are all walking dictionaries"
Lull: motion, no images, non-corporeal, ladder, tree
The triangle is to the boxes as the literate is to the oral
mis en abyme translates to "into the abyss"
Reformation happened because of the printing press
The mandala relates to FW because its a squared circle
Democratic through alphabet?
Ong, page 142, quoting Rilke "song is existence"
Page 224 of Yates--description of Bruno
Solomon's 7 pillars of wisdom built into memory theatre by Camillo
Alphabet invented how many times? Once!
Triangle reached peak at the detective story
Ty and Robert both used their bodies as memory theatres
Yates: connection between Lull and kabala
Hypertext(layered language) used by Joyce and cyber space
Hebrew alphabet has no vowels
Yates pg. 203-- Bruno rushes out of the convent
George Herbert's Easterwings
Ong pg. 126-- Tristram Shandy portrays silence with blank space.
I'm thinking that's most everything. We'll see when the test time comes.
Nietzche says "we are all walking dictionaries"
Lull: motion, no images, non-corporeal, ladder, tree
The triangle is to the boxes as the literate is to the oral
mis en abyme translates to "into the abyss"
Reformation happened because of the printing press
The mandala relates to FW because its a squared circle
Democratic through alphabet?
Ong, page 142, quoting Rilke "song is existence"
Page 224 of Yates--description of Bruno
Solomon's 7 pillars of wisdom built into memory theatre by Camillo
Alphabet invented how many times? Once!
Triangle reached peak at the detective story
Ty and Robert both used their bodies as memory theatres
Yates: connection between Lull and kabala
Hypertext(layered language) used by Joyce and cyber space
Hebrew alphabet has no vowels
Yates pg. 203-- Bruno rushes out of the convent
George Herbert's Easterwings
Ong pg. 126-- Tristram Shandy portrays silence with blank space.
I'm thinking that's most everything. We'll see when the test time comes.
Wednesday, April 1, 2009
We now know that our group presentations are the week of April 13-17, and that we go in reverse alphabetical order for our individual presentations, which will take two forms: the oral form in which we speak of our topic in a demonstrative way and the print form which will adhere at least in part to the restrictions of grammer nazis(which Christine of the Laughing Rats admits to being). Grammer nazis do have a foothold in the literary tradition, since as Ong points out on page 128, print reinforces an urge for "correctness" of language.
But even within the literary tradition, correctness of language usage and organization doesn't necessarily win out all the time. Finnegans Wake is a whopping example of why, as is Tristram Shandy(from which we get the phrase 'cock-and-bull' story) in a slightly different vein.
And then there was discussion of Bruno's insanely complicated and vast memory system, which as Yates says on page 124, would require if not yield, the memory of a magus with divine powers. This is really the assertion that Bruno's memory system carried; that human beings don't reicieve messages from the Divine, they in fact become or are Divine. Which was considered heresy and resulted in Bruno being burned at the stake. There is apparently an interesting children's fantasy inspired by Bruno's memory system called Little Big by John Crowley. Yet another thing I'll have to read.
But even within the literary tradition, correctness of language usage and organization doesn't necessarily win out all the time. Finnegans Wake is a whopping example of why, as is Tristram Shandy(from which we get the phrase 'cock-and-bull' story) in a slightly different vein.
And then there was discussion of Bruno's insanely complicated and vast memory system, which as Yates says on page 124, would require if not yield, the memory of a magus with divine powers. This is really the assertion that Bruno's memory system carried; that human beings don't reicieve messages from the Divine, they in fact become or are Divine. Which was considered heresy and resulted in Bruno being burned at the stake. There is apparently an interesting children's fantasy inspired by Bruno's memory system called Little Big by John Crowley. Yet another thing I'll have to read.
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